I feel kinda awful right now. I need a good long break from fandom. Besides, I have more important things to worry about. I can’t have two of these things at once and I want to create a new Tumblr for my trip to Germany. As soon as there’s something to post, I’ll let you guys know the domain name and such! Until then, I’ll see you guys on p_f. Make sure to post lots of GIFs, please! I don’t want to miss out on Chris, just the fans. <3 <3 <3
I get what you were saying, and while it may not have been phrased the best way you meant no harm. I’m sorry for all the hate coming your way, just know there is love in there too.
His response was phrased badly, but so was the question. When we consider everything that he’s done right, this seems like such a small thing. But I guess it’s a testament to Chris’s behavior and handling of the media thus far. He’s twenty-one, you guys, it’s a miracle he’s as articulate as he is. In the scale of misquotes, this one isn’t all that hefty, really. I can interpret this in a way that makes Chris a horrible person, but I can also interpret in a way that absolves him of blame. It’s the fans’ choice.
If he had said something like “I hate fags,” there would be no way to deny he deserved backlash. But Chris didn’t and if you read the rest of the quote, it’s actually a very nice statement about gay relationships. But we ignore that. Remember when we mocked the media for how they blew Chris’s quote about “hearing about it on Twitter” into “I got fired over Twitter?” A lot of you are doing the exact same thing.
I haven’t shared this opinion because I know people are itching for a fight. But I agree with Chris 100%. I think promiscuity in a relationship is a bad thing. Or, at least, it’s not something I’d want for myself or could really imagine people being happy with. I know some people are. And that’s their choice. But I could never do that. I do think it’s sad that the expectation has become that people aren’t monogamous.
I also know people are upset that Chris specifically talked about “gay couples,” but he was asked what he wanted “gay couples” to take away from the story line. He was asked specifically. I’ve seen many gay men talk about it before: young gay men are more promiscuous because they don’t believe a relationship is possible because of societal stigmas and prejudice.
I’m not sure why people are coming down so hard on Chris for this. I find it disappointing. I think some of the people who are protesting so loudly don’t really know why they are. It just sounds bad to them and they’ve programmed themselves to react in a certain way so people will see what good supporters they are and how “gay friendly” they are, but they aren’t really considering what they’re saying.
I have never hated Tumblr as much as I do right now. This isn’t worth it. I feel sick right now because of the things people are saying about Chris. Chris shouldn’t have said it, if only to avoid all this. His opinions are his opinions. If I thought for an instant he said what he did with the intention of hate, I would be criticizing him too. But he didn’t. How do I know? Because of everything else this child has done for his fans and the LGBTQ community. A misstep, a bad quote, something that might hit a little too close to home. What if a straight actor said: “Straight kids are very promiscuous and non-exclusive these days. It’s sad.” No one would give a shit. Many would agree. You are so ready to be self-righteously enraged on behalf of a community that you support but do not actually belong to that you miss the point of what he was trying to communicate despite how poorly it was communicated. So if you’re disappointed, that’s fine. You feel the way you want. However, I also think that the only thing you are considering is how you feel. It’s a very ego-centric way to think: “His opinion is different from my own. He is personally attacking all my life choices. He’s a horrible person.” If you go through life like that, you are going to be in a perpetual state of being offended. You will believe that only your choices and your viewpoints are right and you will forget that other people are allowed mistakes and opinions and ideas. You will be so convinced that you are right, the only one who is right, that you will end up like Ignatius in “A Confederacy of Dunces,” completely isolated and ignorant laboring under the false impression that you are the world’s greatest martyr and it’s only victim. I’m sorry that those type of people are his fans, people who take one thing and use it to turn against him. And the majority of people who are doing so are heterosexual teenage girls who know very little about sex and even less about gay sex. That doesn’t make your feelings wrong, but it does make your indignation less valid.
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Well, sometimes, promiscuity seems to be a rule to fulfill to get the “gay” badge. Sometimes, exclusivity in a relationship among two guys seems to be perceived as an oddity, and the request for it as a whim. It is as if gay boyfriends should expect each other to get with other people from time to time, and opposing it is just being ridiculous, uptight and a stupid dreamer. Chris is talking about his own perceptions concerning relationships. Apparently, judging from this quote, he likes exclusivity, so it’s sad for him that young gay partners, according to what he knows, usually seem to be incapable of offering that. He’s not an aged man who has seen it all. Most of the young gay guys he might have met so far are promiscuous and won’t enter exclusive relationships which may be the kind of relationships Chris would consider the right ones for himself. He’s not trying to decide which sexual/relationship dynamics are the best for everyone or shaming anyone. He’s sharing an opinion. Perhaps he could have elaborated further, adding “is really sad to me” or “non-exclusive even when they actually would like to” or “promiscuous cause they think they have to prove something by it”, but sometimes he’s silly enough to trust people not to run away with the worst possible interpretation of every word he utters. I’m not disappointed in him at all. I’m disappointed in the fandom, which apparently makes the worst interpretations of everything he says to purposely take offense. Much as with the Karofsky issue, he has the right to say what he thinks, and he’s even trying to ease it somehow, warning that he doesn’t want to upset anyone. In short, I don’t see the problem with saying “a lot of gay kids are very promiscuous”. I would have stated the same, cause, well, from what I know, “a lot of gay kids are very promiscuous.” And I, for one, like the fact that he validates the desire to have an exclusive relationship. Nothing wrong with an open one, but it’s not just a privilege reserved for heterosexuals. Also, I can get totally behind the opinion that it’s not necessary to have had a lot of sexual partners, to be sure that one likes dick. (via hereyoutalktotony) In what way does his quote possibly not amount to condemning choices different from his own? Read the context. He is very clearly saying that gay youth are promiscuous and nonmonogamous and that that, in and of itself, is sad. Period. End of story. I am Chris’s biggest fan. I think this is literally the first time I have ever seriously criticized him on this blog. You have no reason to be disappointed in me for taking what he says at face value; all the little addenda that you are saying he “could have” added are, obviously, things that he did NOT choose to add. There is, in fact, not a shade of meaning here that suggests he understands that nonmonogamy can be a happy choice made by people with eyes wide open who have a full understanding of the implications. I don’t think Chris is a bad person. He will continue to be my favorite celebrity and I love and respect him very much. That doesn’t mean I’m not going to point out and criticize when he says something problematic. You accuse me of making “the worst interpretation” of what he is saying, when the reality is I am interpreting the quote at face value and you are the one who is adding shades of meaning that he “could have” meant. (via shiphassailed) I’m considering the context. That’s why I hypothesize about the possible meanings of his words and don’t go strictly for what appears to be literal. I’m not disappointed in you for your interpretation of his words or for calling him out on something that was not phrased in the best manner possible. Yes, I’ve admitted that: he could have phrased it better. But I’m disappointed in the portion of fandom which purposely tries to make him look as a bad person or an insensitive jerk cause of a not very pertinent choice of words. I’m trying to put myself in his shoes to understand what he’s saying. And, once more, he’s saying something that is important to me and makes me feel better about my own choices. On the opposite, his wording of the answer might make other people feel bad about their particular choices and they have the right to say so, but they could be sane and tolerant as you are being and give him the benefit of the doubt or at least not bury all the good things he has done under some words quoted by some entertainment interviewer. (via hereyoutalktotony) I think people who take it the way you are taking it shiphassailed are not being fair to Chris. I agree with Paulo, you are projecting, taking what he said as a condemnation of your choices instead of a reflection of his own experience. So even though you are entitled to your own feelings, I do not think you are considering anyone else’s but your own (including Chris’s or anyone who might agree with him and disagree with you). You are making this about yourself and ignoring context and intent. You are so ready to be offended that you assume the worst instead of reflecting on what was actually meant. You are also disregarding everything Chris has done and said for this one thing. If what Chris is doing is “slut shaming,” what you are doing is monogamy shaming by assuming those that chose monogamy automatically condemn those who don’t. |
First of all, he’s young gay male who was recently in high school, so he probably knows more about this than you. Second, he didn’t say “all gay kids,” he said “a lot of gay kids.” I also don’t think he was trying to say that gay youth are more promiscuous than straight youth since he was asked…
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Chris, not only is it not a “known fact” - it’s a stereotype - it also isn’t your place to slut shame or to decide which sexual choices are appropriate for others and which are not Essentially the first time I have ever felt disappointed by Chris Colfer in my life (via shiphassailed) Actually, this is what he meant by it. He was trying to say that stereotypically Gay teens and adults are seen as promiscuous. This is why it is a stereotype people. Stereotype = cliche!!!! (via theawesomenessthatischriscolfer) no, calling something ‘a known fact’ isn’t the same thing as pointing out it’s a fictional, damaging stereotype. try again. (via wrongturnrightplace) Well, sometimes, promiscuity seems to be a rule to fulfill to get the “gay” badge. Sometimes, exclusivity in a relationship among two guys seems to be perceived as an oddity, and the request for it as a whim. It is as if gay boyfriends should expect each other to get with other people from time to time, and opposing it is just being ridiculous, uptight and a stupid dreamer. Chris is talking about his own perceptions concerning relationships. Apparently, judging from this quote, he likes exclusivity, so it’s sad for him that young gay partners, according to what he knows, usually seem to be incapable of offering that. He’s not an aged man who has seen it all. Most of the young gay guys he might have met so far are promiscuous and won’t enter exclusive relationships which may be the kind of relationships Chris would consider the right ones for himself. He’s not trying to decide which sexual/relationship dynamics are the best for everyone or shaming anyone. He’s sharing an opinion. Perhaps he could have elaborated further, adding “is really sad to me” or “non-exclusive even when they actually would like to” or “promiscuous cause they think they have to prove something by it”, but sometimes he’s silly enough to trust people not to run away with the worst possible interpretation of every word he utters. I’m not disappointed in him at all. I’m disappointed in the fandom, which apparently makes the worst interpretations of everything he says to purposely take offense. Much as with the Karofsky issue, he has the right to say what he thinks, and he’s even trying to ease it somehow, warning that he doesn’t want to upset anyone. In short, I don’t see the problem with saying “a lot of gay kids are very promiscuous”. I would have stated the same, cause, well, from what I know, “a lot of gay kids are very promiscuous.” And I, for one, like the fact that he validates the desire to have an exclusive relationship. Nothing wrong with an open one, but it’s not just a privilege reserved for heterosexuals. Also, I can get totally behind the opinion that it’s not necessary to have had a lot of sexual partners, to be sure that one likes dick. (via hereyoutalktotony) Paulo, we should get married. |

